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December 05, 2003

Building a New Home-Theater PC - Part I

htpc_case.jpgAbout two years ago, I decided to build a proof-of-concept MP3 server (I've documented that project in this blog entry, so I won't repeat the details here). However, the current machine, a lowly AMD Duron 750 MHz w/ 128 MB of RAM, is well beyond its useful life in that capacity. For example, starting up Real One Player with our 10,000+ song MP3 database takes nearly two minutes. So, it's time to start thinking about what will, and should, replace that starter system.

I'd like the new machine to be more of a home-theater PC -- something that can perform as an MP3 server (at the very least) as well as possibly handle TV recording and other multimedia functions. Ideally, it could record HDTV signals, but I'll admit that I haven't looked hard enough yet to see if any home media software permits that functionality. I'd also like the new machine to come up out of the basement and live in the family room nearer the rest of the home a/v setup.

Now, it seems I have two primary form factors to consider. The first is the attractive option of the small-form-factor (SFF) case, like the AMS eCube bare-bones system I discussed last month. The second option would be the full-sized HTPC case that looks like a stereo component, such as is pictured above.

The SFF has basically just one advantage -- its size. I could fit it into our entertainment armoire fairly easily. Because it's small, it can also be easily schlepped from one place to another. I'm not sure how often I'd want to do that with an HTPC, but you never know. The disadvantages of the SFF are several: they have limited expandability (usually one PCI slot and one AGP slot), they often run hot, and they're often loud (because they don't have much, if any, sound baffling). Plus, most don't blend well with an all-black home A/V setup.

The component case has a few advantages. It looks good, it's heavily baffled (so it's really quiet), and it has plenty of space for expansion since it's a full-sized horizontal case. The main disadvantage is size -- I'm just not sure I can fit another full component into our entertainment center without displacing something we already have (I'm thinking the cassette deck could go -- I don't remember the last time we used it -- but the wife would not easily see the wisdom in that).

Cost is pretty much a wash. A new SFF would run close to $300, which is about the same for a good component case plus motherboard. All the rest of the innards would be the same for both systems.

So, right now, I'm not sure what I'm going to do -- do you have any advice or recommendations? I'm all ears at this point. Oh, and of course, I'll be posting my progress as time goes on here on GearBits.

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Check out the HTPC Forum over at AVS Forum
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=b615520310f5c31111c5687d9f4be8d1&forumid=26

My head is still swimming with all the possibilities...

I really like the A-Tech Fabrication case although it's very expensive
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=b615520310f5c31111c5687d9f4be8d1&threadid=176655

Anyhow, from reading the forums there I have learned alot about what to include in a good Home Theater PC.

Posted by Jon at December 5, 2003 10:58 AM

I have an ASUS Pundit SFF (http://usa.asus.com/products/desktop/pundit/overview.HTM), and I find the largest source of noise to be the hard drive, not the case fans. (The case and CPU fans are both hardware-controlled, and run at low rpms 99% of the time). With a quieter hard drive, it could be quite manageable as a HTPC, and it's a decently pretty box (not a cube), so it would fit in the entertainment center nicely. The only thing I've noticed is that the blue LEDs for power and HDD activity are inordinately bright, making it necessary to find some way to dim them for watching TV in a dark room.

Right now it's doing duty as a home web/mail/print server + wireless router, but I'm considering making it into an HTPC using MythTV (http://mythtv.org/ ) or KnoppMyth (http://mysettopbox.tv/ , MythTV built on top of Knoppix).

I'll be following your construction project closely. Are you planning on using Windows or are you using some flavor of Linux?

Posted by Nickolas Means at December 5, 2003 11:23 AM

I did the same thing a while ago, and I'd tend to recommend the component-sized case. The quietness is nice and all, but I think it'll make it's own room in your entertainment center. Depending, of course, on your viewing habits.

1. get rid of your dvd player. The new box should handle that just fine.
2. get rid of your VCR. This, of course, depends on how much you've gone over to DVD. If you have a lot of videotapes laying around, you won't be able to do this. But, the main thing I used a VCR for was recording TV. The computer will do that just fine.
3. I also got rid of the cassette player, but that's just 'cause I never used it.

I personally used an ATI all in wonder card, and plain old windows XP. Needless to say, this wasn't the best option, and I'll probably be changing it to XP Media Center Edition sometime soon. Which will entail me getting a standalone TV tuner, and new remote.

(I'd go for the linux option, but, as it is, I make my living programming Micro$oft stuff, so I'm privy to most of the software already...)

Posted by David Edwards at December 5, 2003 12:36 PM

David, you can only get XP Media Center Edition on a new PC.

Posted by Galley at December 5, 2003 01:02 PM

I will probably go with Windows XP (non-Media Center), since that's what I'm familiar with.

Posted by Craig at December 5, 2003 02:00 PM

I would also recommend a stroll by the BuildIt site over at ExtremeTech -- http://www.extremetech.com/category2/0,3971,644478,00.asp.

Enjoy -- N

Posted by Noah at December 5, 2003 04:19 PM

you can only get xp media center edition with a new computer, unless you have an MSDN subscription allowing you to develop/test for it...

Posted by david edwards at December 8, 2003 12:56 PM
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